people dying and MB worried about traffic jams!! MB made it crystal clear which side they're on (Petikan dari Twitter Hani Sabra berdasarkan laporan bertajuk "Brotherhood vows not to participate in any more demonstrations". MB ialah Muslim Brotherhood atau Ikhwan Muslimin)Bila perhimpunan dan tunjuk perasaan Mesir pada awal tahun ini dulu berjaya menumbangkan kerajaan Hosni Mubarak, ramai penceramah PAS yang mendakwa Ikhwan Musliminlah yang mencetuskan kebangkitan rakyat Mesir itu. Saya tak tau sama ada mereka mereka-reka cerita atau mereka gelapkan hakikat bahawa Ikhwan Muslimin pada mulanya secara rasmi tidak mengambil bahagian dalam demonstrasi 25/1/11 itu malahan menasihati aktivis-aktivis mudanya supaya jangan mengambil bahagian dalam protes yang akhirnya menumbangkan Mubarak.
Bukan setakat itu, malah saya membaca laporan yang mendakwa para pemimpin Ikhwan pada waktu itu duduk berunding dengan Naib Presiden Omar Suleiman di bawah potret besar Mubarak. Rifa'at al-Sa'id yang memimpin parti Tagammu dilaporkan turut berada dalam perundingan itu. Saya tidak tahu sejauh mana kebenaran laporan itu. Namun, laporan-laporan seperti itu banyak diperolehi. Antaranya di bawah:
The Ikhwan leadership was famously slow to involve itself in the anti-Mubarak rebellion that began in Tahrir Square on January 25. Even as their young brethren, in tandem with secularists and Coptic Christians, manned the barricades that kept regime thugs from clearing the area, senior Brotherhood members were loath to join a movement that was antithetical to the Ikhwan’s near-sacred embrace of gradualism. Only when it was clear Mubarak was on his way out, say dissident Ikhwanists, did Badie and other group elders officially endorse the movement. Even worse, critics say, it broke ranks with a coalition of opposition leaders by negotiating with Omar Suleiman, Mubarak’s intelligence chief and unofficial chamberlain, who briefly became Egypt’s de facto head of state after the president stepped down.Supaya tidak ada lagi penceramah temberang yang kelentong mengenai apa yang berlaku di Mesir, berikut ialah beberapa laporan mengenai apa yang berlaku di Mesir kini:
When the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) established a transitional government in response to popular demands for order in the chaotic aftermath of Mubarak’s departure, it entered into a tacit partnership with senior Brotherhood leaders to restore order. At the time, military leaders told reporters that it was only natural that it would leverage the group’s sizable network to clear the streets. That has not stopped a drumbeat of speculation that the two sides had cut a less prosaic deal: in exchange for the release from prison of Ikhwan members, it was argued, the leadership would keep silent about the military’s preponderant and profoundly undemocratic role in Egyptian industry, from textile milling to the tourism trade, just as it had agreed to support a dynastic transfer of presidential power eighteen months earlier. "They brokered a deal," said an industrialist with close ties to the military who spoke on the strictest condition of anonymity. "The army said we’ll get your guys out of jail so long as you don’t challenge the new regime at a time of great instability."
Elijah Zarwan, the Egyptian representative of the International Crisis Group, said the evidence of Ikhwan–military complicity is empirical. "It’s no great secret," he said. "Just look at the facts. From the military’s side, they got the Muslim Brotherhood’s vast network to take people off the streets when there was no alternative. It was a way to end the bloodshed. So what did the Brotherhood get? They got their members out of prison, a political party that is allowed to campaign in the open and direct involvement in the drafting of the post-Mubarak Constitution..." (lihat "Fault Lines in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood")
Gambar di atas ihsan AFP.Why Egypt's MB did not participate in National Salvation demonstration?
(Islam Online 22/11/11): Thousands of protesters have filled Cairo's central Tahrir Square calling for the military to spell out and hand over power to a civilian government. At least 33 protesters have been killed in clashes with security forces over the past three days.
Meanwhile, Egyptian political forces behind the uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak, Egypt's former president, called for a mass rally on Tuesday 22 Nov to demand the army cede power to a civilian government.The Coalition of Revolution Youth and the April 6 movement, among others, called for the protest at 4:00pm local time (14:00 GMT) on Tuesday in Tahrir Square.
"Muslim" Brothers, unlike Amnesty, blamed the interior ministry and instead linked the Tahrir clashes to "desperate attempts made for months to halt the process of handing power over to the people through the parliamentary elections".
However MB failed to mention who stands behind the claimed attempts, most likely they meant the most important activist movements, April 6 Movement, who "announced they will continue their sit-ins in Cairo's Tahrir Square and in other governorates, demanding the ruling military junta transfer power to a civilian presidential council."
The Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party issued a statement on Monday announcing that it will not participate "in any sit-in or protest that may lead to more confrontations and congestion," the party wrote in a statement it issued to reporters. "In the meantime, we will be striving along with other parties to abort the sedition that the interior ministry has instigated in the country," the statement said.
The party demanded that the ones responsible for the killing of potesters be brought to justice. In the meantime, it linked the Tahrir clashes to "desperate attempts made for months to halt the process of handing power over to the people through the parliamentary elections.
The honeymoon
Since March of this year, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) appeared to have had a behind-the-scenes deal, agreement or accommodation, from which both sides would benefit. That, at least, has been the conclusion drawn by many in the democratic/secular camp in the country’s post-revolutionary political space.
Some argue that a SCAF/MB agreement is still in place, while others argue that whatever deal they might have had has been called off lately, due to sharp disagreements between the two. Leading Brotherhood figures, however, vehemently deny ever having had an agreement with SCAF.
Those who accuse the Brotherhood of having struck a deal with SCAF point to the group’s recurrent withdrawal, even condemnation of protest actions aimed at achieving the Egyptian revolution’s basic objectives in democracy and social justice. Concerned solely with winning the lion’s share of political power in the country after the popular uprising, Brotherhood critics charge the group is working towards a power-sharing deal with the military.
Towards this objective, the Brotherhood’s critics argue, the group has committed itself to help the military rulers control public opinion and deter recurring post-revolution nationwide demonstrations, strikes and sit-ins by neither endorsing nor taking part in any of them, and on occasion condemning such actions outright.
Some explanations
Despite the decision of the party not participate, many young members of MB are expected to join the mass rally on Tuesday evening in Tahrir Square in solidarity with their mates. These groups is believed to have their vision and act according to what they think right.
Some analyst think that MB views what is going on in Tahrir Square as a conspiracy by some libral parties to make some kind of coalition with Military Council in order to secure a distinctive position in the political scene and stop the advance of MB to sweep the coming elections.
The MB according to some other analysts distance themselves from Tahrir Square so as not be blamed should there be any violence and bloodshed because they would be the main group in the Square. Others observers think MB do not want to see the historical polarization between them and the Military Council i.e. the State since they do not have true allies within what is so called the democratic alliance. MB will not benefit of this situation and it will not be in the interest of the country now and hence not to participate was a painful decision to take.
Another reason of the decision of the MB not to participate is the possible confrontation with other forces occupying the Square. These forces considered themselves the real owners of the Square and may seek to initiate troubles with MB and this is notability what they want at this time.
Salafi Presence
Just after the statement of the MB not to participate in Tuesday mass rally the Salafi political party El Benaa wa Tanmeya(Construction & Development) announced that it is going to participate in the mass rally .
Asim Abdul Majed the spokesperson of the salfi party pointed out that what happened in Tahrir Squre on Monday was a massacre against Egyptian people and he added that because of the absence of prompt justice the old regime’s party, National Party is coming back in politics but in disguised political slogan and parties.
According to many analysts and observers of the stance of the Salfi parties, they were much more courageous and daring than the one of the MB. It is worth mentioning that this new stance of the Salafi towards what is going on in Tahrir Square came after the previous awkward position they took concerning demonstration against the Military Council.
This in turn shows that the Salafi parties are learning day by day how to respond to the political development in Egypt and take the right decisions. The decision of Salafis to participate in the Tuesday’s mass rally will give them a favorable position compared to the one of Muslims Brotherhoods and of course will add to their legitimacy and refute the common perceptions held by many analysts that they live on gains of the MB.
Decision making within MB
The Muslims Brotherhood" or "MB" is the world's oldest and one of the largest Islamist parties, and is the largest political opposition organization in many Arab states. It was founded in 1928 in Egypt by the Islamic scholar and schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna and by the late 1940 had an estimated two million members. Its ideas had gained its supporters throughout the Arab world and influenced other Islamist groups with its "model of political activism combined with Islamic charity work". Its most famous slogan, used worldwide, is "Islam is the solution."
To understand how decisions are taken within MB one has to know the structure of the “Maktab al Ershad” i.e. Guidance Office. This office composed of very homogeneous group of people and this group had experienced the historical crisis with the Egyptian military apparatus and they do not want to repeat this unpleasant experience. According they avoid any confrontation with military. However this fear of confrontation crippled the party decision makers to articulate a new relation with the military apparatus.
The composition of the Guidance office of old generation with a classical thinking will explain the irresponsiveness of the party to the rapid political developments in Egypt. Things have changed dramatically and half solutions no longer fit the rebellious youth who demand massive changes in the political life in the country.
Finally, the methodological differences between the MB and the rebellious youth explain to a great degree why MB decide not participate in the mass rally. The youth demands radical changes while the MB adopts conservative manner to bring changes orderly. Although sometimes it tends to act in a revolutionary style however it prefer to come back quickly to its well known conservative manner to realize its objectives.
Concern grows over military’s intentions in Egypt(Excerpt) The military had pledged in formal communiqués last March to hold presidential elections by September. But the generals have changed their mind. More accurately, they revealed the plan they had harbored all along. They now say that the presidential election will come only after the election of a parliament, the formation of a constitutional assembly and the ratification of a new constitution — a process that could stretch well beyond 2013. Regrettably, a number of political parties, among them al-Ikhwan al-Muslimoon (Muslim Brotherhood), have also acquiesced in this extended process. This reflects both their lack of political courage as well as detachment from the aspirations of the people that yearn for fundamental change, not three years down the line, but now (Crescent International, November 2011)
Brotherhood vows not to participate in any more demonstrations
(Al-Masry Al-Youm 21/11/11): The Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party issued a statement on Monday announcing that it will not participate "in any sit-in or protest that may lead to more confrontations and congestion," the party wrote in a statement it issued to reporters.
"In the meantime, we will be striving along with other parties to abort the sedition that the interior ministry has instigated in the country," the statement said.
Cairo police on Monday fought protesters demanding an end to army rule for a third day on Monday and the death toll rose to at least 33, with many victims shot, in the worst violence since the uprising that toppled President Hosni Mubarak.
The party demanded that the ones repsonsible for the killing of potesters be brought to justice. In the meantime, it linked the Tahrir clashes to "desperate attempts made for months to halt the process of handing power over to the peoeple through the parliamentary elections."
As night fell, thousands of people packed Tahrir Square, the epicenter of the anti-Mubarak revolt in January and February. The clashes threaten to disrupt Egypt's first free parliamentary election in decades, due to start next Monday.
"The people want the fall of the marshal," they chanted, referring to Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, Mubarak's defense minister for two decades and head of the army council.
Clashes flared in side-streets near Tahrir. Witnesses said looters, not necessarily connected to the protests, had attacked the American University in Cairo and other buildings.
Protesters have brandished bullet casings in the square, where police moved in with batons and tear gas on Saturday against a protest then dominated by Islamists but since driven by young people with secular aims. Police deny using live fire.
Medical sources at Cairo's main morgue said 33 corpses had been received since Saturday, most with bullet wounds. One source at the morgue said the toll had risen to 46. At least 1,250 people have been wounded, a Health Ministry source said.
Muslim Brotherhood will not participate in Tuesday “Million Man” march
CAIRO (Bikya Masr 22/11/11): While Egyptians are converging on Cairo’s Tahrir Square in response to a call for a million-man march to protest against the country’s military rulers, Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood officially declared it will not take part in the march.
The group says the decision stems from a desire “not to drag the people into new bloody clashes.”
“The blood of the martyrs will not be lost – but will continue to be a curse on the heads of those who contributed to the bloody events – and out of our commitment not to lure people to more bloody confrontations, we call for reason and wisdom of all honest, patriotic Egyptians, and hereby declare that we will not participate in any protests or demonstrations that may lead to more confrontations and tensions,” read a statement released by the group on Tuesday.
As the country’s largest and best-organized political group, many have see the move as motivated by a desire not to get involved in anything that could disturb parliamentary elections that are due to start next Monday. Analysts believe that the Freedom and Justice party (FJP), the Muslim Brotherhood affiliated party will perform well in elections, as they wield a significant grassroots capacity.
“We don’t need them,” Zeinab Kheir, a lawyer and an activist, said referring to the Brotherhood, vilified by many activists as an opportunistic, self-serving group.
But the Brotherhood may have underestimated the appeal of the secular-minded activists and the depth of anger over the military rulers’ failings.
The offer of Egypt’s civilian Cabinet to resign Monday after three days of violent clashes between demonstrators and security forces in Tahrir Square, failed to satisfy protesters deeply frustrated with the military.
While millions are merging at Tahrir, the Muslim Brotherhood focuses on calling “for the rapid prosecution of all those who caused the heinous crimes that took place and were reported to the Attorney General.”
They also “urgently call the government to stop the bloodshed by withdrawing the security forces from the bloody confrontation.”
“We will constantly endeavor, together with all parties, to end the strife sparked by the Interior Ministry in the whole country, which left lawlessness prevail in many governorates, while striking demonstrators with an iron fist.
Berkaitan:
Egypt protests and Arab Spring: as it happened (The Telegraph)
Anger in Egypt (Al Jazeera)
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ko ingat nak serah kuasa amik masa sehari.. nak jadi macam libya?.. sekarang ni sesama sendiri pulak berperang.. pilihanraya nak start dah.. tunggu je la..
Wong
Typical smokescreen
Salam, harap PB tak tuduh melulu denga hanya mengambil quote dari media barat shj..cuba tanya student kita kat sana ttg apa yang terjadi..ini adalah perancangan Zionis untuk mempelekehkan usaha IM dalam mengembalikan Undang-undang Islam ke bumi Mesir....siapalah kita berbanding mereka yng dipenjara,disiksa oleh pemerintah tentera sekarang yg dulunya berketuakan Hosni Mubarak....yang sememangnya menjadi proksi terkuat ZIonis,...harap cermat sebelum memberi komen dan pandangan saudara....
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Itu namanya strategi traffic light, jln step by step: kuning, merah dan lepas hijau baru pecutttt!!!
Penerangan PAS Kedah,
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Sila baca "Why Egypt's MB did not participate in National Salvation demonstration?" di atas.
Mana ada pemimpin moden kini yang tidak gilakan duniawi, sesuatu berlaku ada punca nya. Mungkin mereka mengikut rentak bahalol umno seperti lembu fidlot kot. PAS ada ramai pemimpin yg half-past seven, ngok dan malas. Lama kelamaan ikut juga rentak Ass Ali.
Berita dari web Ikhwan ni bukti memang Ikhwan tak join dan ugut2 je nak join....
MB Threatens to Return to Tahrir Square if Supra-Constitutional Articles Remain
Muslim Brotherhood (MB) media spokesman Dr. Mahmoud Ghozlan asserted that the group has decided to head to Tahrir Square if SCAF fails to intervene and withdraw the supra-constitutional principles proposed by Deputy Prime Minister Ali Elselmy.
Speaking on the Shabab Satellite channel during the programme "Ahdath Alsa'a" via telephone, he stated: "Following the revolution, pressure has been the only successful means for demands to be met where SCAF and the governing authority maintain their silence until the people take to the street protesting and rallying. This is unacceptable."
Discussing the electoral committee's reluctance to accept registration from the candidates on the Freedom and Justice Party's electoral list, Ghozlan said "It is important that the committee adheres to the law and act accordingly without bias or prejudice towards any candidates".
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/iweb/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32698:mb-threatens-to-return-to-tahrir-square-if-supra-constitutional-articles-remain&catid=10388:paragraphs&Itemid=858
Revolutionaries camp in Tahrir: “How can we tell the generations to come that we left an army to rule them?”
Protesters reject military offer to cede power by July 2012
In Photos: Egyptians take to Tahrir to complete the Revolution
Ikhwan masa tu dok bincang lagi, nak joint ke tak nak.. anak muda ikhwan dah mendesak dah.... Ikhwan LEMBAB... BODO IKUT IKHWAN...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk. Thursday 24 November 2011
Egypt: Muslim Brotherhood facing growing backlash from protesters
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood faced a growing backlash from protesters in Tahrir Square after it was accused of collaborating with the country's military leaders to prevent an immediate transition to civilian rule.
By Adrian Blomfield, Cairo8:10PM GMT 23 Nov 2011
Violence and chaos engulfed Cairo's famous landmark for a fifth day after pro-reform protesters rejected a pledge from the army to hold presidential elections by next June, months sooner than expected. Doctors in the square reported at least three more civilian deaths during an increasing bitter battle with security forces for control of the nearby interior ministry.
But anger was also directed at the Muslim Brotherhood which negotiated a series of concessions from Egypt's generals, who have ruled Egypt since Hosni Mubarak, the former president, was toppled by his people in February.
With the measures falling well short of protester demands for the army to hand over executive powers to a civilian cabinet with immediate effect, the Brotherhood was accused of acting out of self-interest.
A three-month legislative election season is due to begin on Monday. Opinion polls suggest that the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamist allies will win more than 40 per cent of the vote, far more than any of its secular rivals, and critics claimed it had reached an accommodation with the army to ensure that the elections went ahead.
But the tactic, protesters warned, was likely to misfire and could even cost the Brotherhood a significant share of the votes.
"They appear like they would do anything to gain power," said Ahmed Naguib, an independent candidate and prominent liberal activist.
"They look power hungry. It's not what's best for Egypt, it's what's best for the them."
Although the bulk of the tens of thousands who have thronged Tahrir Square are secular-minded, a number of Muslim Brotherhood supporters have joined the protests. Some said they were disgruntled by their leaders' decision to co-operate with the army.
"They should not have started negotiations while people are dying," one said.
A growing number of opposition activists and protesters have called for a postponement of the vote by between a fortnight and six weeks.
"The elections are going in one direction and the street in another," said Lobna Darwish, an activist. "What kind of election can we have when there is such brutality taking place."
Fearing they have been outflanked by the Brotherhood and the army – Egypt's two most powerful forces – many protesters called for secular politicians to unite and give the people of Tahrir Square one voice powerful enough to challenge two rivals they see as holding undemocratic values.
Meanwhile, a truce negotiated to end the standoff outside the interior ministry collapsed as night fell. Soldiers were deployed to form a buffer between protesters and the police, but the latter was accused of opening fire over the army's heads with rubber bullets and buckshot.
Dozens were injured and protesters immediately began once again to hurl stones as the violence escalated. Police have also been accused of using CR gas, a potent form of tear gas that has killed some protesters and caused hundreds of others to collapse with convulsions. An Egyptian neurosurgeon said the symptoms of victims he had seen suggested that the gas contained a neurotoxin.
That's their world of peace!!
Masaalah Mesir tak akan selesai selagi ianya tidak kembali pada sistem khalifah.khalifah di tentukan oleh Allah melalui keturunan dan hamba Allah yang terpilih dan di beri hidayah dan pertunjuk.Demokrasaiala barat ciptaan zionist tak akan meyelesaikan masalah rakyat dan pemerentahan.Mana munkin manusia mendapat hak dalam menentukan dasar pemerentahan.Dasar pemerentahan telah di tentukan oleh Allah azawajal.cuba fikirkan hal ini.Tugas menuntut syariat Allah bukan terletak pada IM tetapi seluruh umat islam di muka bumi ini bukannya cara pilihan atau suara terbanyak.Perentah melaksanaakan syriat samalah seperti perintah sembahyang dan rukun islam yang lain mana munkin manusia di beri pilihan menetukan.Rakyat mesir perlu bangun tuntut syariat islam dijalankan dengan cara sistem khalifah.Keturunan raja FARUK harus kembali menjadi raja atau kahlifah.Bukan semua keturunan Raja jahat atau maksiat tetapi banyak juga yang di beri hidayah dan pertunjuk.Sejarah Tanah melayu pun terdapat ramai para sultan dan raja yang alim berjaya melaksanakan syariat sebelum Tanah Melayu di jajah oleh kuasa barat.
dulu masa nak jatuhkan mubarak, ikhwan muslimin tak declare dia terlibat dgn demonstasi sbb tak mau rakyat biasa mesir takut nak join, bukan semua org suka ikhwan, lebih baik join dlm diam supaya demonstarsi dpt sambutan semua org, nampak ada kesatuan yg utuh drp rakyat. kebanyakan org awam yg ada di dataran tahrir tu memang pun org ikhwan, mereka dah berjuang lama dan sistematik, mesti ada stategi yg diperjuangkan tu.
air KUNING TAIK sebok BERSIH 3 pulak sama lah la tu..jahanae jahanae
kahkahkah...yang Syria Pak Bakaq x nampak plak noh....